What do you think of the Heyward trade now?

Shelby Miller has delivered for the Braves so far this season. (Justin Edmonds/Getty Images)

Shelby Miller has delivered for the Braves so far this season. (Justin Edmonds/Getty Images)

Back in November, as the Braves were reconfiguring themselves with an eye toward 2017, the Jayson Heyward trade was a particularly personal one.

Heyward had all the hometown connections, and always would be the storybook local player who homered in his first big-league at-bat. He was the fellow who would hit wherever needed in the lineup. Plus, even when that bat sometimes wandered, he played the outfield like a man possessed. You run into enough walls, you become a fan favorite.

In exchange, the Braves received from St. Louis a young starting pitcher coming off a very so-so second full year in the Bigs and a prospect not far removed from shoulder surgery.

Here at the All-Star break is not the time to fully judge the trade, but at first glance, it certainly looks rose-colored for the Braves. GM John Hart said he was more thrilled about his deal than any of his others; and we see why.

That starter, Shelby Miller, is going to the All-Star Game. That prospect, Tyrell Jenkins, just threw seven scoreless innings in his Triple-A debut in Gwinnett.

Jason Heyward doubles against the Cubs, as part of his joyous June. (Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

Jason Heyward doubles against the Cubs, as part of his joyous June. (Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

And Heyward? Well, he won’t be at the All-Star Game – and hasn’t been since his 2010 rookie season.

After a slow start with the Cardinals, Heyward had a terrific June (hitting .326 with four home runs and 14 RBI). He’s playing for his next contract, which will be substantial, and has the benefit of playing on a team with the best record in baseball.

You figure Heyward will settle into what he is: A .270ish hitter of moderate power, and a steadying defensive force. St. Louis doesn’t have to hack into any of the Braves computers to figure that out.

Yeah, that trade worried me early.

Not so much now.

You wish Heyward well. And, at the same time happily take on two potentially high-impact arms in his place.

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jerunamo
jerunamo

You people are I sane if you think the Braves are better without Heyward. You are talking about players with potential and that are not proven. I think Heyward was coached wrong offensively in Atlanta. You see what he's doing now batting 287 and study climbing. This will bite us in the tail for years to come. I think it was best for him to leave though. This organization would have ruined him.

SaveAmericaFromItself
SaveAmericaFromItself

Shelby Miller and Tyrell Jenkins for Jason Heyward?

The Cardinals rolled in April-May when Heyward was MIA at the bat. His sporadic offense is nothing new; but some team will be happy to reward him for all that potential. Fine young man but the Braves will come out way ahead in this trade. Jason's childhood dream was to play in Yankee pinstripes. He might realize that dream.   


SeanLB
SeanLB

@SaveAmericaFromItself This is exactly right.  You can't ask "how do you feel about the trade now" until Jason signs whatever ridiculous deal he's about to get at the end of the season...

Earhardnt_Fan
Earhardnt_Fan

Godd ridance 2 Haywood! I done told U all 4 many yeasr he stirke out 2 much. 

creative
creative

I really like Heyward as a Brave and as a person.  That said, he is huge, and I can't figure out why he doesn't have more power.  He should be a 30-30 guy or in good years a 40-40 guy...Ron Gant style.  At this point, obviously we are better off, but I would still like to have him on the team at the right price.  You can't pay people on potential into their late 30's.  That's the Michael Vick Syndrome.  When people continue to call someone "a kid" at 26 years old.  

Kennyd_va
Kennyd_va

I wouldn't say J-hey is overrated.....   The braves sucks since those trades and it will take awhile before the Braves be in the Hunt again.     Hey the Cards best record in the NL and J-Hey is a Card

jarvis1975
jarvis1975

@Kennyd_va Randy Choate is also on the Cardinals' roster. He, like Heyward, is not the reason they are in first place.

afx
afx

we definitely going to win this trade if next year Hey signing zillion big contract with any club because he overhyped, if common sense contract with Cards we on the losing side. possibility common sense contract - less than 1% 

JeffCriswell
JeffCriswell

I still like the trade. Miller is an All Star pitcher who is not getting any run support. I hope he can stay the course without being discouraged. I think the Braves will find some bats, either in the minor league system, FA, or through trades. The trade I think we will regret is Gattis; Folty and Ruiz are major question marks. 

TomGaff
TomGaff

@SaveAmericaFromItself @JeffCriswell Mr Save America, let's be Fair & Balanced here. Gattis is hitting with a .240 BA, 15 HRS, 12 Doubles, 4 Triples( that is one stat I almost could not believe for a 260 lb man) , 54 RBI's at the half way ML break. Most of the time it has been as a DH with 6-7 games in LF(only one error committed).  The way some of you bloggers talked, Gattis was not even able to catch a routine fly ball in LF? We gave away a productive ML player for three prospects, two of which may never make it pass AA ball? What have our LF guys done for us, it was a very good deal for Houston and bad for us Braves fans, in my humble opinion!

Decaturian
Decaturian

The Cards are in first and Heyward hasn't been necessarily been a detriment to them, Shelby has been really good but the braves don't really have anything to show for it. Right now i would have to say the Cards have the better end of the deal.  What good is it to have a great pitcher if you only get to watch him in the regular season?  But it's kind of a push because the Cards would probably still be in first if they would have kept Shelby and the Braves would still be in the middle of the pack with no post season hopes if we had Heyward.

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Kelvin59
Kelvin59

We will know in about three years who won in this deal. Fans and media I might add are always trying to judge something instantaneously. NFL or NBA draft and the next day the draft grades are out with the winners and losers. I remember Jay Bilas the night the Hawks drafted Marvin Williams saying in 5 years Marvin Williams could turnout to be the best player in the draft. I read comments from fans after a player plays one game saying this guy stinks or this guy is going to be great when it takes more time for a player to develop into the player he will become.  Early on the trade looks great for the Braves, but let's hold off on the hyperbole. Give it some time and we can all look back on this deal and with two or three years of data and determine if it was a good deal or not.

KeepinItSimple
KeepinItSimple

Loved it then, love it now. 


Heyward was overrated and was coming up on a BJ Upton style contract.  I understand that some folks didn't grasp the financial art of the trade, and based on just players it was very arguable on who won the trade.  When you factor in the financials it was so far into the Braves favor that every expert in baseball thought the Braves robbed the Cards (which they did).

DawgLink
DawgLink

Extremely proud of the trade. Heyward is not Hank reincarnated like everyone said. He tries to pull every pitch.

TomGaff
TomGaff

Actually Jason H playing well for Cardinals at this time. S Miller playing well for us also. Probably give us the edge to us since we got a big time starting P! My guy, Evan Gattis,also doing well in Houston, got BA up to around .240 with 15 HRS, 53 RBI's(leads AL there)and believe this or not, 4 triples! Speed at 260 lbs, what gives there?

J-Dawg
J-Dawg

Thats the business of baseball CardiganBoy. If you think that makes us a curious bunch, you obviously don't watch a lot of baseball.

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

@J-Dawg J-Dawg, you said it sir.  You guys have a much greater affinity for management then the players.  labor should be cheap.  If it's not get some that is. 


Going to a Braves game, sometimes I thought I was at the Masters.  I used my imagination, never been there.


I guess the "business" part that I find a bit annoying is how you guys rip the player we jettisoned for prospects. And there's always a comment about how dumb the other teams are who pay a player market value.


Not very classy for a classy fan base.

Techmate
Techmate

@CardiganBoy @J-Dawg  Oh the arrogance of this true blue Cardinal fan. Cards have a good organization but it's not for anything that CardiganBoy brings to it. Enjoy your first place club now but come October you'll more than likely be in the back seat with the rest of us.

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

Enjoy Miller while you can, true-blue Braves fans.  When it's time to pay him market value, the Braves will demur.  He'll be gone for prospects.  And you guys will be lighting up the blogs with your unbridled support for Braves' management in one sentence, while crowing "Good riddance!" in the next.


You true-blue Braves fans are a curious bunch.  

58Supersports
58Supersports

@CardiganBoy  New GM and I don't believe that crap anymore...Miller will be here for a while unless he blows it..

TreeRollins
TreeRollins

I was glad to move Heyward then and am happy about the trade now as well. He was an entitled young man that never put in the work needed to reach his potential - plain and simple!

creative
creative

@TreeRollins How do you know how much work he put in?  Do you have an inside source?

ProudtobefrmthaG
ProudtobefrmthaG

Braves have the worst outfield in baseball.. Everybody ragged Heyward for his lack of power, now the clown in right can't even get it to the fence... 44 million, whoever signed him is a Idiot!!!

TomGaff
TomGaff

@ProudtobefrmthaG Hey knucklehead, isn't our RF guy hitting about .295 and strikes out not very often. Don't remember him making many errors out there also? Look you are not getting the kid from Washington(Harper) or the CF guy from the LA Angels! What do you want ?

Columbus68
Columbus68

Whoever pays "substantial" money to Heyward is an idiot and should be fired. 

Columbus68
Columbus68

Thats what I am here for Steve to clear things up for you. What do I think of the Heyward trade now? The same as I thought of it then. Fantastic! Heyward under performed offensively. A bust offensively pretty much. Too much money for an offensively under performing right fielder. Did not live up to the hype. never will consistently either. GREAT trade and move by the braves. 

Falcons63
Falcons63

While it is early, I think so far the trade by far benefits the Braves.  You get a good#2(possible#1) starter, a top prospect who is off to a good start,  for a great D, very mediocre bat RFer.  Chances are pretty good the Cards won't resign Heyward.  There will always be a team that see's Heyward's obvious potential and will be willing to bet that they can be the organization to bring it out.  This will mean Heyward will command far more on the open market than his production would indicate.  Heyward turns 26 on 8/9.  While not old by any means it is becoming clear that no matter he's perceived talent, he will never be a Harper/Trout type player.  A career .264 hitter, he's hitting .276 after his typical slow start.  Never mind his career post season average of .154(16 k's in 39 AB's).  This is his contract season. One would think if he is ever going to produce, it would be this season. I liked Jason as a player when with the Braves and I wish him nothing but the best, but I don't see anything that would indicate an end result other than what you see with Heyward right now is probably what you are always going to get.

ShootinTheHooch
ShootinTheHooch

The Braves have seven number seven hitters and Freddie Freeman.  Replacing a seven hole hitter with another seven would not have made a bit of difference in the season. Miller's future upside is much greater than one more year of great defense then free agency. Hart got this one right!

TomGaff
TomGaff

@LADawg Look I still say we should have kept Gattis and put him in LF! His numbers are a .240 BA, 15 HRS, 12 Doubles, 4 Triples(even I find that hard to believe) and 53 RBI's(leads AL there). Plays with Houston(which has several HR type hitters, so very few on base when Gattis comes to bat). Think about it, we have mostly singles hitters with no one to drive them in when they get on base? Gattis could have had about 65 RBI's if he was still a Brave)? Yes, he probably would not have won a Gold Glove in the OF but I contend he would have been at least decent!

LOGS1973
LOGS1973

Another stupid Braves trade! LOL

58Supersports
58Supersports

@LOGS1973  what was stupid about it? we got very good pitchers (one a all-star) for future and Cards got a free agent at the end of year...


58Supersports
58Supersports

AJC has more love for x-players than the fans..... Glad J-Hey is gone!

ChopChamps95
ChopChamps95

@58Supersports I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who thought that.  This site, without fail, writes a couple of articles every season on Francoeur and he hasn't worn a Braves uniform in 6 years.  

moboman
moboman

Perhaps we are due some payback for the Wainwright trade.

RapidRobert1
RapidRobert1

Way too soon to be 'sending roses'  !!!

WhopperDawg
WhopperDawg

Go back and watch those documentaries of Glavine, Maddox, Smoltz, Chipper and Cox and then watch them again. Revel in it. Relish it. It took decades to get there. It will take decades to get back for this franchise. This franchise norm is the 60s, 70s, 80s and the current recent status, don't forget that.

Mutley
Mutley

It won't happen without an owner who wants it to happen. Ted Turner is long gone and winning anything of real consequence is not high on Liberty Media's agenda.

Iamthetruth
Iamthetruth

@WhopperDawg  The 1980 Georgia football highlights are calling your name. Revel in them, relish them. Herschel is gone. 


I am a Braves fan and realize what we had and will probably never have again.  So what?  It's almost impossible to put that type of team and record back together.  I still love the Braves and enjoy watching baseball.  We will see what the future holds.

JAS0N
JAS0N

"what he is: A .270ish hitter of moderate power, and a steadying defensive force."

Heyward was hitting .225 with 2 rbis in mid April.  If he was in Atlanta, he would probably still be hitting .225.  St. Louis actually knows what they are doing.

MUSCLECAR
MUSCLECAR

WIN, WIN for the BRAVES...................Jenkins and Miller will be in the rotation next year and Heyward will be his typical self for the rest of his career. BRAVES are loading up on starting pitching with Miller, Tehran, Wood, Jenkins, Perez, Wisler, and Banuelos . They will have some good trade pieces for the future.

mdhenshaw
mdhenshaw

Both teams gotta be happy with the results so far. Heyward had a slow start, but is playing a lot better and having success against both left handed and right handed pitching. 


Miller has been good. I'm not convinced he's a top of the rotation guy. Far too early to say if Jenkins pans out.